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Rachel Haywire
March 8, 2011

Not long ago, Jason Schoenecker and I published a brief piece called The Transhuman Separatist Manifesto advocating exactly this perspective — and the piece, not surprisingly, has created some controversy in the transhumanist world. Recently, and almost inevitably, Woody Evans published an counter-article titled Crown on the Ground: Against Transhuman Militance. In response to this controversy, this article aims to clarify some of the ideas and motivations underlying the Manifesto, and the concept and movement of Transhuman Separatism.

When I say that we are a new species — as I did in the Manifesto — I mean that we are the new revolution. We have created an anti-utopia-utopia full of freethinkers on the fringe (or completely outside) of human society. Some of us have cybernetic implants, while some of us don’t. This isn’t about appearance for us, and this isn’t about being cool. We come from all different areas of the political spectrum.

We Transhuman Separatists define ourselves as Transhuman. Other Transhumanist schools of thought view H+ as a field of study. While I am fascinated by the field of Transhumanism, I would argue that H+ is most fundamentally a lifestyle — not a trend or a subculture, but a mode of existence. We are biologically human, but we share a common understanding and know that we are beyond human. We Transhuman Separatists are interested in making this distinction through separation.

Do we wish to form a Transhumanist army, and kill the humans who aren’t on our level? My answer here is an obvious no. Do we advocate Second Amendment rights? Absolutely. If anyone attempted to kill me for being weird, I would need to be able to defend myself. There may not currently be people out there who are killing anyone who is H+, but stranger things have happened in our society. If nobody was to attack us, we would not commit violence against anyone. We have no desire to attack the innocent.

I think there is a class distinction in the H+ community. Those of us in the lower/working classes have been through a lot of horrible experiences that those of us in the middle/upper classes might be unable to understand. We have our own form of elitism, which is related to survival, and many of us feel the need for militance. We feel like we have become stronger through our trials and tribulations. Think of us as Nietzschean Futurists. Our goal is to separate from the human herd and use modern technology to do it.

Also, it’s important to understand that not every Transhuman Separatist is into Militance. James Felty states that Transhuman Separatism is simply freedom from the tyranny of biology. Others, like Chris Coreline, say that TS is cutting the crap and getting down to work – we have a new species to build. According to Robert Bisno “Transhuman Seperatism, in essence, is the notion that the second human race, oncoming through neurological, genetic, and cybernetic developments as it is, should be unencumbered by the myriad neuroses and psychoses that so characterize the first human race.”

Many questions are being asked by people who think that militance could be harmful to the H+ community. Natasha Vita-More asks: why have a militant race? How is this related to building a more advanced consciousness? Tarrah Egregor states, “personally I think even considering violent means to reach our goals shows a lack of maturity which makes those goals implicitly out of reach.”

There is no violence being considered here, just a large set of questions that are of reasonable concern. Many of hold a lot of anger due to how we have been treated by humanity. When someone says “kill the humans”, are they serious? Not at all, but I guess this could be seen as a bit scary. Of course none of us are going to arm ourselves to eliminate the homosapien.

Khannea Suntzu has an interesting way of summing it up. “It’s a warning. We are a bunch of margin loons, sure. But the future will change so fast and irreversibly that any movement like TS is holding a virtual cocked gun to society. It’s a form of proactive unionization. My favorite quote comes from Kory Schubhut. “It’s not even about guns. If you enhance yourself then you become more dangerous. It’s almost unavoidable for us to take up arms. We will be weapons.”

Regardless of our viewpoints, what we Transhuman Separatists are interested in is separating from human society, so as to more fully enjoy and develop our Transhuman selves. We are simply a new current of Transhumanism. We don’t wish to wait around for the idiocracy to evolve. We are students, scientists, artists, musicians, writers, roboticists, geneticists, and philosophers, and what unites us is a common understanding about the nature of reality and a desire to use technology to advance ourselves whether the rest of humanity is ready or not.

We come in peace.

Editor’s Postscript:

This article, and Rachel Haywire’s previous “Transhumanist Separatist Manifesto” article, provoked a bit of controversial discussion among those of us in Humanity+ involved with operating H+ Magazine. The memes of transhuman separatism and militance don’t resonate so well with the philosophy of Humanity+ as an organization. But we felt it appropriate run the articles in H+ Magazine anyway, because these memes are a part of our reality, and should be aired and discussed. Of course, the views of any H+ magazine article shouldn’t be taken to represent the (official or informal) views of Humanity+.

If you’re interested in more of Rachel Haywire’s ideas and artworks, for instance her writings about transhumanism and chaos magic in the Disinformation anthology Generation hex; her industrial music project Experiment Haywire; and her 3 CD musical compilation Sanity is Slavery created to fight against psychiatric abuse and a consensual definition of reality, you can check out her websites here:

http://experimenthaywire.com
http://machinekunt.com
http://transhumanseparatist.com

73 Comments

    Separatists seem to have given up any hope of educating what they call the “idiocracy”.
    Everyone, whether trans-humanist or not, will benefit from a more comprehensive teaching of the scientific method, including the math formalization of Occam’s Razor AKA inductive inference.
    Because they can rapidly see that this method will allow them to achieve more of their goals, most new learners will be highly motivated.
    Also most people would quickly benefit from learning how to use tools like Google Scholar in order to get very accurate informations.

    I find the concept of Transhuman Separatism to be quite intriguing. It seems to me that the base idea, that transhumanists are severely politically disenfranchised, and that attempting to change this situation from within the systems that bound us is a dead end, is right on target.

    There are many and various things that we want that are so opposite to the mainstream society that we are effectively in a tyranny of the masses. Pressing matters demand attention that is not given. Money is spent on wars we do not support. Change is held back by powerful ideologies we disagree with. While the internet has served as an amazing platform for the growth of transhumanist thoughts, there are still multiple and very real cages in which we grow restless. How long are we willing to remain in the edges, a powerless, fringe minority, when transhumanist life, not only thought, is in need of free expression?

    If we do not wish to see those dystopian futures that critics of H+ constantly expound upon (and to escape our less than pleasant present predicament) it seems clear to me that the H+ community must take matters into its own hands to ensure there is a place where transhumanism is not merely ‘tolerated’ (if it is at all) but openly encouraged and allowed to reach its most positive potentials. At this moment in time I do not believe this is possible inside the existing nations (aside from their other multiple flaws)…

    “We want a nation. We want sovereignty. transhuman sovereignty.” I’m not sure about everyone else, but on this I agree.

    This thought is, like transhumanism itself, full of promise and peril. I think it is inevitable. I do not believe it to be a threat to H+, certainly not more of a threat than the rest of society… Separation does not necessarily have to involve violent opposition, and creating an environment for the free expression of transhumanism does not need to involve racism or an oppression of bioconservative thought and ways of living. I think it is a very valid idea and deserves serious discussion.

    You don’t need arm to kill human being

    you need to get over ressources, construct big firm, destroy the idea of country,, get all the Capital

    and do not share

    and stop the economy, get the army

    and watch people die, like a good holywood film

    COOL ? isn’t it ?

    It happen in front of your eyes

    at this point

    the middle classs is disapearing

    The work of middle class is disapearing

    And the tertiary jobs, of the middle class, is disparearing

    This is a side effect :)

    In an economy build upon “tertiary jobs” , when there is less economy, there is less reeel economy, than mean less jobs, and less economy, etc, etc etc etc etc and etc

    Transhumanism need to be defined

    need to be global

    and need to take care of the transition in economy

    ( and demography )
    ( PS : people will die, and don’t think you can forever exit death)

    THE END

    Eeh.

    You can define yourself as whatever you like, but for the moment being these claims to belong to a new species seem about as substantiated as those of Otherkin.

    Also, “mainstream” humans seem perfectly happy to engage in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacemaker&quot; body and brain modifications, as long as they serve a purpose and are not to unsafe; hence, it is quite probable that the first “transhumans” (whatever this may mean) will be bankers and top medical doctors and in general ‘The Man’, and not the members of a subculture of techno-enthusiasts who like punk-like aesthetics.

      agreed and that’s how you get the market and the public to accept the changes and bring everyone along for the ride.

    It’s nice in the ghetto. We and them, and we are better, because we see the future…

    Alas… If the singularity (in whatever form) is inevitable, it will become mainstream.
    I am a member of several subcultures that became accepted more and more by the mainstream over the last few decades. Some of the old guard weeped, because they were losing their safe unique identity. Others embraced the influx of new people and ideas.

    So if you want to be a ghetto, by all means do so. The future will come and gobble you up without even noticing you were there.

    Class distinction inside H+ is obvious. I doubt that us, common low/working/low-middle-class people who identify ourselves as transhumanists have something in common with H+ leaders. They actually treat H+ as form of business, selling books, paid seminars, stuff like that. We are sort of free labor force for them, a useful idiots that help them earn a quick buck. Maybe we need a labor union or something.

    Powerful ideas can lead to powerful actions. I strongly think the writer of this article needs to step back and re-think her position. To me, this sort of thinking is a step towards radicialization, and that is a step in the absolutely wrong direction. If the goal is to make Humanity better for all (who want it), starting out by trying to seperate ourselves from the rest is counterintuitive. Furthermore, perception is very powerful, and if the luddites out there perceive that they have even the slightest reason to feel threatened by us, they will find ways to slow our progress.

      I like your analysis, Kate. Organizing for the transhumanist masses indeed seems worthwhile.

    Foolish “transhumanist” youngsters. Wait until your middle-aged reality kicks in. Just ask extropian Robert Bradbury about that.

    Oh, wait, you can’t now – he DIED suddenly the other day.

    BTW, how do you youngsters manage to attend all these H+ themed conferences throughout the year without holding jobs, as far as I can tell? Where does the money come from?

      Why do you come here? You think transhuminism is far fetched? When do YOU think we cross over into transhuminism? A hip replacement of bone calcium replacement? Feel free to respond since you’re the expert here.

        or*

      Was he cryogenically preserved? If not I don’t see a viable excuse.

      http://alcor.com/

      http://suspendedinc.com/

      On an unrelated note, it’s rather consoling that you probably won’t be.

      Volunteer work among other things. Thank you for asking.

    Rachel lays out her position with much more clarity here than in prev. pieces — I think this is likely to win new TS folks to her side. (I’m not one of them… but I can understand how she comes to this position).

    X-Men used to be just a metaphor…
    :0)

      > X-Men used to be just a metaphor…

      Sure, but it never was a metaphor for people playing with fancy technological toys. Humans _love_ fancy toys, after all…

    Why oh why is this hypocritical and confused young woman allowed to mangle the English language and bleat her incoherent rants on H+ AGAIN?

    She is not “working” class! She has never had a job in her _entire life_ ! She collects SSDI disability, and handouts from her rich and politically powerful family. She used to spend her time at “Aunt” Janet Reno’s house!

      H+ magazine aims to present a wide variety of perspectives on a wide variety of transhumanist topics. There’s currently a small but active community of people interested in the “transhumanist separatist” notion, so it seemed appropriate to run her article presenting and provoking discussion on the idea. — Ben Goertzel, (co)Editor, H+ Magazine

        then at least find a writer on the topic who doesn’t need three essays to _almost_ make some kind of “point” perhaps?

        Someone cleaned up her garbled syntax and murky run on sentences this time around, apparently. So, thanks for that much.

        Are you her ghost writer?

        Why does a super duper transhuman like she claims to be need to collect welfare checks for being disabled and defective in the first place?

          There is a large difference between “welfare checks” and “disability social security.” The disabled are some of the first people that fully utilize transhumanist technology.

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8114920/Bionic-implants-We-have-the-technology.html

          This includes mental disabilities as we can see from the advances in nootropics. (Ritalin, Adderal, the plethora of memory-enhancing drugs developed for Alzheimer sufferers, etc.)

            You see no irony in the crippled and nonproductive trying to lamely lead an “army of super men” ? And not even mastering English grammar along the way?

            No irony in the ‘blind leading the blind’?

              No irony in the ‘ useless masses’ and ‘idiocracy’ RH despises providing her with food, shelter and sundries in taxes from their own labor w/o their consent?

              Give her a plot of land for her “transhumanist” Utopia, and wall her in. She and all her small group of supporters will have starved to death within a month.

                Incorrect use of apostrophe. “The pot calling the kettle black.” I believe you meant to use quotations, good sir.

                  As you can see, it’s easy to needle someone. It is much harder to formulate a cohesive argument.

                    I have already destroyed her premise, and its poor structure. Weak and ill formed quips from you make no difference.

                      You just proved my point.

            Interesting that you mention that. One of the reasons I got into Transhumanism was that I wanted to cure myself of my physical limitations. I was born with high functioning autism which limited my motor coordination among other various other things.

            There are currently cybernetic augmentations that cure blindness and new techniques that remove the damaged scar tissue of burn victims. Now is a very important time for disabled people to take an interest in Transhumanism. It could literally save our lives.

              “One of the reasons I got into Transhumanism was that I wanted to cure myself of my physical limitations. I was born with high functioning autism which limited my motor coordination among other various other things.”

              I’m an aspie too. I’ve gotten over myself for the most part, but I still lack the “theory of mind” to some degree. While autistics do not as readily engage in groupthink behavior, there still is that instinctive desire to belong to a group. This type of manifesto probably appeals to aspies since they feel like they are from another planet and were ridiculed or ostracized for being different. I think that this angst and rebellion is understandable, but I hope it is just a phase because it is unhealthy and causes further separation from humanity. You seem like a very strong female and that too will cause resentment from others since it stirs up subconscious fears regarding women.

      Ray_smallberries, would you care to clarify what you mean when you said “She used to spend her time at “Aunt” Janet Reno’s house!”? Is this a metaphor for something? And if it is, would you be able to prove your accusation?

      Thanks.

    It’s fear and ego speaking. Funny, but it seems those who think most about themselves are the least of this community.

    Though my own focus is quite different from Rachel’s, I find her articles interesting and I support the editors’ choice to publish them. From an email/FB discussion of a few weeks ago:

    Personally I find many of the issues discussed on the Transhuman Separatists FB group rather uninteresting and boring, but there is a certain youthful vigor and drive that is missing elsewhere. It is an interesting experiment, and I am one of those who tend to think that the young (in flesh or in spirit) are always right by definition. Let thousands of flowers bloom, and let experiment decide.

    “Think of us as Nietzschean Futurists.” ???

    Someone has never read a single word of Nietzsche!

    Might it be the same person who never even so much as finished high school?

    Might it be the same person who name dropped Martin Heidegger and then was unable to contribute even a _single_ sentence of further comment to rebut her obvious total ignorance of his work, ie when she called Heidegger an “occultist”! ? ! ? !

      In high school, we were taught how to construct an argumentative essay. The preachy, anonymous attack spam is hardly an effective way to get your point across.

        One can not formally argue with demented word salad, but one can expose it for what it is.

          So, your argument is that the for mentioned article is nothing but demented word salad. What’s the issue? Two sides, find supportive evidence for both sides. Please stop angrily spamming the articles forum and form an educated, well thought out rebuttal.

          Transhumanist’s pride themselves on the fact that we are usually above the mean IQ level. Explore this avenue.

            Read her previous articles, and the comments that haven’t been oddly deleted ; you are not informed enough here to be making any judgments.

              I have read the articles and the comments. I have not stated an opinion on any of these articles, only on the spamming that this article has received by you. If you form an analysis of your view on the article, I’d be happy to share my views with you in a well thought out and intelligent manor but I will no longer be contributing to the spamming of the comments bored.

              To the comment editor: I sincerely apologize.

                There is no spam here at all. Anyone who calls for an ‘army of super men’ on H+ while they mooch on SSDI money had better expect some potent criticism. It is you who have not made any solid point, you just heap vague and irrelevant abuse. I am a competent and informed critic, and you are a mere troll.

        It’s this guy again: http://extinct-marsupial.org

        Same old troll. Same old hate. Serial stalker of over 50 people.

    “We have created an anti-utopia-utopia” ???

    All anyone has seen are a couple of crummy quickie websites featuring goth fetish models with bad tattoos. And a Facebook group that isn’t even open to the public.

    If _that_ is any kind of “Utopia” then the definition of the term needs to be radically re-evaluated!

      One persons Utopia is another person’s Dystopia. I believe that the play on words you mention is describing an achievement of “Utopia” by finding a middle ground that everyone can live with. Although any single person might not refer to the situation as a Utopia, it’s as close as everyone may get as a whole.

        You are going to have to do better than this, you aren’t making a coherent point. Do you know the actual definition of the term “Utopia”?

        U·to·pi·a
           /yuˈtoʊpiə/ Show Spelled[yoo-toh-pee-uh] Show IPA
        –noun
        1.
        an imaginary island described in Sir Thomas More’s Utopia (1516) as enjoying perfection in law, politics, etc.
        2.
        ( usually lowercase ) an ideal place or state.
        3.
        ( usually lowercase ) any visionary system of political or social perfection.
        Use Utopia in a Sentence
        See images of Utopia
        Search Utopia on the Web
        Origin:
        < Neo-Latin (1516) < Greek ou not + tóp ( os ) a place + -ia -y3

        Utopia : a not-place. An impossibility.

    A Utopia is an entire civilization, not some juvenile and ill considered notions tossed on a scribbled website.

    Aldous Huxley in his final masterpiece _almost_ creates a plan for a real Utopia, but doesn’t finish it as he was wise enough to understand that Utopias aren’t even possible to fully achieve and this is conveyed by the grim ending of the book.

    however….

    Rachel Haywire, you are _no Aldous Huxley_ to say the … least !!! ….you are a microbe in comparison to Huxley, who was a real ‘G’ creative Genius and one of the keenest intellectuals and artists of the entire 20th century.

    He is almost incomparable. A Titan.

    and you have produced what? a web page with a tattoo goth chick on it.

    so, kindly, please… just Shut Up!

    Aldous Huxley’s final masterwork “Island” ; I neglected to write the title in the above comment.

    One of the finest wrought and most important novels of the 20th Century, and little or nothing to compare to it yet from the 21st Century.

    To “ray_…”: it might be mildly interesting to H+ readers if you’d publish your real name.

    Interesting, too, that the wilder and more slobbery the railings against Rachel get, the more ground her position gains in the wider readership.

    I see no evidence of your assertion “Woody.”

    Does an slap up web page with little on it but a tattoo on a goth chick impress you enough to give actual intellectual credence to these juvenile rantings of Ms. “Haywire”. Ask her for her civil name while you are at it.

    Her writings, like her music, are entirely cliche and juvenile, and also very poorly constructed. This really isn’t in dispute.

    You drag H+ to new depths by condescending to allow her a place to publish them. Let her rant on her own goth fetish “model” website. H+ is for scientists, not goth chicks with nothing to say and little skill to convey even a basic point.

    “anti-utopia-utopia”? this is meaningless mush.

    You give transhumanism a bad name by catering to this ill advised faux-martial nonsense.

    RH is as ‘martial’ as a full blown fashion show, but the clothes she hawks don’t even sell. Yet she keeps crying for her own army, and she poses in fascist and pseudo-Nazi costumes.

    This is not acceptable.

    further and finally : RH does great dis-service to her self proclaimed “radical feminism” by replacing real intellectual content with yet another one of her scantily clad “goth fetish models” ; she sets back both transhumanism and feminism with her empty headed notions and crass gestures.

    Oh poor poor Ray. Did someone post something on the internet that you didn’t like? I feel for you, I really do.

    Oh no, wait. I don’t.
    I liked this article, especially the emphasis on peace. I would also like to note that I fully agree with Kuu’s comment.

    And ah, Mark Plus? I think I’ve seen some of your complaints before. You seem to be quite bitter that your hopes never came true but now you’re just whining. Let the young be young and hopeful.

    “enhancing yourself makes you more dangerous”…in a way, sure, but someone above brought up a good point in that most people who don’t want to die are okay with accepting technology being integrated with their tyrannical biological bodies. can anyone tell me specifically what types of modifications the burgeoning transhumanist will be having done? and who will be doing the dirty blood and guts work involved in “building a new species”? are there transhumanist doctors?

    “ray_smallberries” = “ray smuckles” = extinct marsupial?

    … wouldn’t be surprised …

    I really can’t understand what all the ranting is about. It not like anyone is going to take serious calls of militancy against a threat that has not yet emerged. I don’t think that Transhumanism is as far outside the main stream as some people think, although I defiantly do feel that Singularity hub is more interesting. I guess that the sites have a different focus and that’s fine, but I don’t really find most of the articles about Transhuman politics all that interesting, although this article was better than a lot of the other ones. I know I am human whether I like that or not it’s not going to change anytime soon, if I could I would change but I can’t so I won’t.

    Militant transhumanism just seems like another sub-subculture fetish. Is anybody really threatened by this, seriously? Smallberries, really, who cares man? What is the point in antagonizing this woman? This is just a argument between ineffectual intellectual sub-subcultures that I believe have will no real impact on the future. Once human upgradeability goes mainstream, as it is beginning to, all this will be much ado about nothing.

    Criticism is not “antagonism.” This forum is heavily censored, or you would be getting a much more balanced view of the facts at hand.

      I volunteered for hplusmagazine under the old CMS. While I mainly did layout editing for articles, I also screened comments for spam. Spam bots are getting pretty tricky these days, and it’s sometimes difficult to run a successful Turing test on tweet-length text. We publish everything that isn’t selling shoes and male enhancement pills (for “transmen”).

    woodchopper, he was making highly personal, mean spirited attacks on her person. I saw them with my own two un-enhanced eyes. And I say that as someone who is not biased towards her arguments. He was not just criticizing her arguments. I personally think this whole militant transhumanism angst is a tempest in a teapot, but there’s no reason to be ugly and personal about it. He was engaged in blatant ad hominem attacks.

    Please read up on the actual definition of the term ‘ad hominem’ and you will see it doesn’t apply as you have stated. It is one of the most misused concepts floating about the internet today.

    Examples and Observations:

    * “The abusive ad hominem is not just a case of directing abusive language toward another person. . . . The fallacy is committed when one engages in a personal attack as a means of ignoring, discrediting, or blunting the force of another’s argument.

    “Although some faulty arguers may call attention to distasteful features of their opponents in order to manipulate the responses of their audience, most abusers apparently believe that such characteristics actually provide good reasons for ignoring or discrediting the arguments of those who have them. Logically, of course, the fact that any of these characteristics might fit an opponent provides no reason to ignore or discredit his or arguments or criticisms.”
    (T. E. Damer, Attacking Faulty Reasoning. Wadsworth, 2001)

    I can attest that several of my relevant comments have been censored.

    [EDITOR'S NOTE: H+ Magazine does not censor comments, unless they are spam, nonsense, content-less, meaningless insults, or have zero relevance to the discussion. Several of this poster's comments have been removed, not because of his views, but because the comments in question had no relevant content. I would ask this poster to note that, if H+ Magazine were censoring things, we would have censored the complaint about censorship.]

    This is a fascinating development. I wasn’t expecting the transhumanist identity to reach this point so quickly. The elitism in the separatist appeals worries me, but the countercultural elements resonate. I’ll definitely stay tuned.

    Actually woodchopper, I feel that many of his comments fit the definition you provided perfectly well.

    Something is clearly wrong with Ray he seems to be a stalker. Somehow I doubt he is really all that upset about what she wrote I think it goes deeper than that. Why would Transhumans want to separate from humans anyways? The whole idea relies on an advanced economy existing which can’t happen without a lot of people and capital. Besides if Transhumans are really going to be superior to humans why would they separate from the cattle when they could exploit them?

    You are abusing the term stalker, and it is wrong for you do to so. Literary criticism is _not_ stalking, and I am highly offended at your choice of words, which have no relevance or accuracy in any way. RH posts links to a website with stolen nude and never before public photos of an individual, and you call ME a stalker? No, you are out of line.

      “a website with stolen nude and never before public photos of an individual”

      Well now, that is indeed a very interesting assertion. Mind providing us with any proof of what you say and who you might actually be?

      You’re a stalker, “Ray”. You’ve attempted to impersonate me on Facebook, multiple times. You’ve impersonated others, including the recently-deceased brother of yet another person you’re harassing, as well as other members of her family.

    Rachel Haywire’s essays seem to generate a lot of responses and discussion. I think that’s a good thing. If you have a different opinion then you should write something up and submit it. There is no need for you to spam so many responses saying mostly the same thing into the same thread it makes you seem unhinged. Some of your posts are direct person attacks, which I see as ungentlemanly and crass. As far as I can tell Miss Haywire is simply advocating for Transhumanist to consider taking steps to acquire the means to defend themselves from aggression, and there is nothing wrong with that. I think that many people are far too passive towards both social and physical aggression. Maybe you are willing to take a boot in the face for eternity but I am not, because if we are not careful that is what will happen.

    Any issues with music festivals and Aunt Janet Reno have been settled.

    “Woody” deletes my comments, he appears to have a personal relationship with R. “Haywire” that leaves him with a bias in regards to his editor’s duties here, so he abuses his power to screen comments. I am done here, under such circumstances, 5 mins on google and you can more than have your answers.

    [EDITOR'S NOTE: Woody Evans is a writer for H+ Magazine, he is not an editor and he does not moderate comments.]

      Are you posting under multiple identities on this page, “Mr. Smallberries”?

      Sounds like exactly the sort of thing the alleged harasser mentioned in that link up there would do, doesn’t it?

    5 minutes on google shows all information on the Extinct Marsupial website to be correct. The list full of Ray Smallberies (and all of the other names he uses to harass the H+ comments page) stalking targets is quite extensive.

    As I keep saying…

    Be careful to avoid being marginalized by separation.

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